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Old 02-25-2009, 08:36 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I have some direct experience and the black women who have worked for me, without exception, are in general no stronger, tougher, meaner, or more aggressive than women of European descent or Asian women. Maybe I can get a fan to actually measure the results we've had..
One thing I like about Japanese fighting is that they seem more sadistic and crazy. Maybe not stronger or tougher...but definitely more twisted.

I agree with your assessment about girls from Latino countries. For a good rough and tumble fight, the best place to look is fighters from third world nations. They seem more willing to fight to the end and aren't too worried about getting beat up.
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Old 03-21-2009, 07:42 PM   #22 (permalink)
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my girlfriend who is very strong from a lifetime of involvement in many sports lost quickly to a black woman in a spontaneous scuffle. The woman wrestled her down and straddled her and very quickly pinned her wrists down.
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Old 04-18-2010, 01:47 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Default just some more black vs white pics

just some more black vs white pics
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Old 04-20-2010, 06:48 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Check my thread "BLACK POWER". there are details on it dealing with specific superiority of Black women over White women in a physical sense. Fast-twitch muscle response; muscle density; ligament/tendon strength; testosterone levels; capacity to respond and progress in scientifically designed training routines; wins in Olympic events; etc., etc., all show that Black women who are even SMALLER than White women can not only be stronger, but have more stamina due to higher testosterone levels. Black women of equal size or larger size trained the same way as physically comparable White women, will easily surpass the White women with little difficulty.
You can take a Black woman and a White woman who are not in "shape" at all, and nine times out of ten the Black woman will prove physically superior to the White woman. Equally, you can also take a Black woman and a White woman who ARE in "shape" and again, nine times out of ten, the Black woman will prove physically superior to the White women.
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Old 09-02-2010, 07:31 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Genetics is really the key, but there are exceptions to the rule. I've
watched and observed catfights all the way back to the 60s. As a
general rule, I can conclude that black women very easily defeat
white women, and that white women very easily defeat oriental
women. The absolute key factor appears to be size and strength.
Though about the same height average wise, the average in shape
black gal is stronger and definitely heavier, and in most cases faster,
as world sprints indicate. The oriental woman is at a total disadvantage
here, being shorter as well. Bone structure appears to be a clue as well.
Black women are definitely thicker boned than either white or oriental
women as well as being longer limbed than poor dainty but cute oriental
women. My relationship, which I got involved in with two bisexual gals
years ago, is a good example of this and has allowed me to make some
observations. The three of us still meet and have good times though we
are not what we used to be so I'll describe them when I met them. The
white gal, Diane, was 22 5'5" 110 lb, and her shadow, as I used to jokingly
say to Phyllis was 19, 5'5" 130 lb. Both were in good shape and play
wrestled many times during the years to turn me on. Phyllis would win
very easily and could also outrun the lighter Diane as well. From a physical
observance, Phyllis was not only bigger boned, but her arms, thighs, and
buttocks were noticeably larger than Diane's as well as Phyllis being just
a bit larger breasted. Surprisingly they seemed closer matched in the
calves, though I wouldn't give that to Diane either. On shoe size, Diane
is a 6 and phyllis is size 8. Another thing that surprised me, though being
the same height, Phyllis had much longer fingers, enough that I could
conclude that this seems to be a racial character trait in probably most
if not all cases. All in all black women winning most catfights, as a general
rule doesn't surprise me at all.
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Old 09-14-2010, 02:58 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Dlemay9, I agree with you that an average black girl normally defeat an average normal white girl, but I disagree that an average normal white girl defeat an average normal oriental girl...

Asian girls in general, east asians and oriental girls, too are often superior to white girl regardings quickness, technics and enthusiasm. Most of the white girls are bigger, but bigger doesn't mean stronger. Have a look at Academy Wrestling or Ultimate Surrender...there are many examples where small asians are defeating bigger white girls (mostly blondes).

Interesting for me is the scenario, that there are many many matches where the black girl totally destroys the white girl, but there's only a small number of matches where the white girls totally destroys the black girl, even if the white girl wins...
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Old 09-17-2010, 05:11 PM   #27 (permalink)
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"Dlemay9, I agree with you that an average black girl normally defeat an average normal white girl, but I disagree that an average normal white girl defeat an average normal oriental girl..."

We can't agree on everything. I don't fully accept Ultimate Surrender and
Academy Productions as the absolute measuring tools, but one of many.
I've been to the orient, including Vietnam, and the impression I get is that
the oriental women are just too tiny and they are not strong at all. This
is even more true of the Vietnamese women, who are the smallest and
daintiest of all oriental women that I've seen. In the oriental buffet that I
go to in town, or China Town in Boston, I get the same impression. Trust
me. It doesn't mean that oriental women or white women are not sexy.
They are. Black women as well. The biggest problem I find with tiny oriental
women being dominant has another key factor. The oriental women live
in an introvert society as opposed to lets say black ghetto girls, who are
much more extroverts or outgoing. My personal opinion is that bone structure
is the real key, although genetics can also play a part as to muscle density.
The black gals have both muscle density and thicker bones(hence muscle)
than either the white women or oriental. The white women are heavier and
stronger than oriental women as a general rule and are better athletes, but
that doesn't apply at all when it comes to gymnastics. I won't mention
intelligence at all because if my two friends Phyllis or Diane were able to
read this, I might have some explaining to do even of my own intelligence
as a man. I'll just conclude that there is intelligence in all races of women,
but that there are definite physical differences as can be observed.
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Old 09-18-2010, 11:32 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Yeah, that's the main problem with Academy Wrestling and Ultimate Surrender and that's why your partly right regarding your statement.

To me it's interesting that both companies don't find good and strong black fighters while nearly every other producer can find at least one or two. There is one good black girl at Ultimate Surrender, but she did only 2 matches (vs. Darling and The butcher) before she retired because of her job. Or did she retired because US don't want to have a really good black woman on the mat?

I'm not sure about Academy Wrestling. Many matches looking like partly or completely scripted, even if they tell you that everything is real. I think everyone who have seen a match where 2 young sportswomen competitively go for the victory knows if a producers tries to sell a scripted match as a competitive match...
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Old 09-24-2010, 01:41 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I can definitely see the appeal but the black/white element was never high on my list of catfight likes growing up (I think partly because I liked to pair off girls that I know in my fantasy fights and I grew up in an area that was 99% white).
However, being on this board - where it is always a hot topic of conversation - and seeing the many photos available in this area has forced a reappraisal and I'm now a fan, especially black beating blonde - although anyone beating a blonde is good by me.
To this end I downloaded some Joan Wise black vs blonde battles and came across one (JV016 - Ebony vs Renee) that I remember a little story about which greatly increased my enjoyment of the video.

I once had some dealings with a guy who was in at the inception of Jaguar videos (if you're on this board, hi John, it's Darren Hubble). I tried to mine him for some info on the girls - without much success to be honest, he was annoyingly discreet - but the one memory he did share was the shooting of the Ebony vs Renee video.
They had starred in Jaguar's first three vids, a couple of mixed and then they had fought each other (JV03). If you've seen that video, the girls exchange the top position thru the fight but eventually Renee is the winner. The guys made Renee the winner partly because she didn't want to lose and Ebony didn't mind but also on the basis that people would want the really attractive blonde to win.
Of course, they got that wrong and Jaguar got an overwhelming response that it would have been better if Ebony had won. So they got them to fight again for JV016 only this time made Ebony the winner.
Renee wasn't a fan of being the loser and John said Ebony made things worse by being "stupidly happy" and if you've seen the video you'll know that she really enjoys herself. She pulls Renee all around the room and rubs her body all over the blonde in the most one-sided of all Jaguar's early fights. All the time she does this with a big, big smile on her face.
Renee tries to stop her at one point and Ebony says `Fight me all you want but we both know I'm going to win.' Renee takes all of this and makes for a good `loser' on this occasion but right at the end she breaks character when Ebony has her in a schoolgirl pin and slaps her and Renee says `Don't hit me' so Ebony slaps her again but Renee blocks it with her arm and says seriously `I said don't hit me' so Ebony slaps her (quite gently) twice more on the top of the head and Renee spits at her!
It's a worthless act, from her position she can't reach beyond her belly button but there's an immediate cut in the film. John said that Renee said she'd had enough at this point but they had to have an ending for the video so they persuaded her to lie back down and then told Ebony to finish it. So Ebony traps both her arms under her knees so she can't protect her face anymore and gives her the hardest slaps, back and forth across her face, you'll ever see. There's an immediate cut in the video again because Ebony tried to carry on and mount her face again and Renee started screaming she'd had enough. The vid cuts back to Ebony just kneeling beside a KO'd Renee, stroking her forehead and then getting to her feet and posing above her because Renee wouldn't agree to anything else. If you've got this video give it a watch. Ebony really enjoys herself and really winds Renee up throughout. Knowing the undercurrent of bad blood really increases your enjoyment.
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Old 10-14-2010, 03:36 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I say that Black women win alot.

My mom got into a fight with a black women and mom loss the fight.
Not only did she beat my mom.
But she striped my mom naked infront of the on lookers.

I find that black women dose what ever it takes to win
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